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#26447 - 06/12/10 03:33 AM Overheating?
cschaap Offline
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I am always worried about Kenny overheating. Sometimes his face will be red and really warm but the rest of his body is ok. Other times his whole body is warm but he seems content and will continue to play. I am constantly spraying him with water and putting a fan on him in the car but I guess I am wondering when I should be legitimately concerned. What are some symptoms of overheating besides his face turning red? It's so hard to tell sometimes because his skin always seems a little warmer to the touch even in air conditioning.
Also, I was wondering if anyone has used Urealac Lotion and how often you use it?
One more question...we have burbur carpet throughout our house and Kenny just started crawling. Since he started I have noticed his knees and the top of his feet are splitting, not bleeding, but very red and raw looking. He has never had this before so I guess i am wondering if this is due to the friction from the carpet or if the scaling just got thicker and now it's cracking deeper. Should I put anything on the cracks? It looks painful to me but Kenny will just continue to play so it's hard to tell.
Thanks for your help:)
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My name is Candace. My son, kenny was born May 19, 2009 diagnosed with Lamellar Ichthyosis. My daughter Chloe was born June 4, 2011 unaffected.

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#26451 - 06/14/10 01:31 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: cschaap]
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For overheating, make sure he drinks plenty fluids too, as well as spraying with water. My son (nbCIE) overheats easily in hot weather, esp when running around, i always make sure he drinks plenty, keep him in shade if poss, and playing with water is great either swim pool, paddling pool or even just a bucket of water and some toys. Also i tend to use 'cream' type emollient on his skin in warm weather in place of more oily ointments.
Not sure on any other actual 'symptoms' of overheating, my son just gets v red and hot 'looking', others may advise better.
For cracked skin, something like vaseline petroleum is very good. Hope this helps

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#26468 - 06/15/10 12:22 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: scotsmum]
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For Kallie I feel the bottoms of her feet, the inside of her legs, those are good indicators of how hot she is. I also took a thermometer with me to Mexico, I never felt like I needed to use it but my pediatrician said that it was a good indicator as well. Anything over 100.4 and you needed to start worrying. I also keep tons of lotion on her and have her drink lots of fluids!

As for his knees and feet, its probably the carpet causing the problems. Have you heard of Baby Legs? Check them out and you may want to order some of those. That will protect his knees and feet!
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#26473 - 06/15/10 02:52 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: MomofPrincesses]
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My children first turn red, then get cranky and lethargic and uncooperative, and THEN they start to sweat. I don't usually let them get past cranky and lethargic. By the time they are sweating, they are severely dehydrated.

I go everywhere with bottles of gatorade or water in the car. I use the refillable ones with flip top straws on them. Even a walk across the street to the grocery store is done with beverages for all.
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Jennifer
Ichthyosis-en-Confetti Type 2
Husband, Nathan - 10, Elliot - 7, Oliver - 4, all affected.
I also have an unaffected daughter, age 8.


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#26475 - 06/15/10 06:06 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: Hearsay]
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Brandyn's face goes very red and hot and his feet get hot. I keep him barefoot all the time when it's warm which helps a lot. As Jennifer said with her children, Brandyn also becomes extremely aggitated and cranky and screams for water. I don't think Brandyn can sweat at all? I have never seen him sweat at least.

We were at the zoo once and it was pretty warm so I actually kept putting water on him and soaking his clothes which helped a lot. People thought I was a bit nuts for drenching my child but it worked! wink

As far as his knees, Baby legs are great. After awhile we weren't really having issues anymore so it may be temporary, fingers crossed.

I am a bit worried about the conference to be honest. I don't have a cooling vest for him so I think we will just go to the park at night. Even then, I'm not sure how we will go..
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My name is Morgan. My son Brandyn was born on 26th June, 2008 in Sydney, Australia as a collodion baby and has been diagnosed with lamellar ichthyosis.

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#26476 - 06/16/10 12:30 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: Hearsay]
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Please explain how sweating indicates dehydration and severe dehydration in the case of your children? Normally, sweating would indicate that the body's cooling system is working properly.If someone could sweat and is fully hydrated, there should be no problem at all.

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#26477 - 06/16/10 01:37 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: Promiseland]
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Promiseland, Jennifer will obviously be able to answer your question better than I can as she knows her children's particular type of ichthyosis much better than I do naturally but I read somewhere that people with ichthyosis and probably particularly kids due to their size require MUCH more water than someone unaffected. So when a person with ichthyosis overheats they become dehydrated and then if they do eventually start to sweat, they would lose even more fluids thus creating severe dehydration quickly??? I'm not sure really but that is how I interpreted what she said smile
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My name is Morgan. My son Brandyn was born on 26th June, 2008 in Sydney, Australia as a collodion baby and has been diagnosed with lamellar ichthyosis.

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#26478 - 06/16/10 02:36 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: brandynsmum]
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Morgan,

I understand that there are rare and severe types of ich that pretty much prevent sweating. This would be Lamellar and CIE. And in those situations, overheating should be avoided at all cost. Otherwise, heat stroke may follow.

However, for the milder and more prevalent kinds of ich, like X-linked and severe Vulgaris, there is also an "overheading" or "heat intolerance" problem. However, the solution in these situations does not entail avoiding hot weather at all cost. On the contrary, people afflicted with these types of ich fare best in the summer. The reason is that we have an underlying ability to sweat, and to sweat quite profusely. But this ability to sweat is hampered by scale buildup associated with cold weather. In essence, we need the summer weather in order to sweat which in turn clears the skin of scales. A bad prickly itch would occur when we live in cold weather, and the scales are bad, and we need to sweat but cannot in the absence of hot and humid weather that would facilitate sweating.

For me with severe vulgaris I love the summer because the weather allows me to sweat freely, which in turn would exfoliate the scales. Outside of summer weather, for me, sweating would be harder to come by, the build up of scale would be unimpeded as a result, and I would run the risk of bad prickly itch the next time I exert myself and need to sweat.

I have prickly itch overheating when I cannot sweat. I cool down when I can sweat. And I need summer weather in order to sweat.



Edited by Promiseland (06/16/10 03:18 AM)

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#26479 - 06/16/10 03:41 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: Promiseland]
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My children have ichthyosis en confetti. It is most similar to EHK. What happens with us is that the skin grows too fast and that the keratin molecule that makes skin waxy and waterproof is broken.

Broken skin barrier = increased rate of water loss. This isn't sweating, this is just heat of evaporation, the same way water boils down when you cook a hot dog on the stove. Most types of ichthyosis lose 4 - 7 times as much water as someone with normal skin, and are therefore in a constant state of dehydration. They drink a LOT and eat about a cheeseburger's worth of extra calories to compensate.

When you lose water, you also lose heat energy, and this has to be made up with diet. The majority of people with ichthyosis are average or underweight. There are very few on the obese end of the spectrum simply because so much energy is used between dehydration and excessive skin growth. For kids, that would be calories normally used for growing everything else.

Anyway, when my kids overheat, the regular heat control mechanisms kick in. (sorry if I sound like a physiology teacher; I am!)

1. Blood vessels open and bring blood to the skin surface, making them red.
2. Activity goes down so the muscles stop adding to the internal heat level.
3. heart rate goes up to get the blood circulating to the skin surface faster.
3. The sweating mechanism is intact (some types have blocked sweat glands, but the mechanism that CAUSES sweating works just fine - the prickly itch some types have is the sweat getting trapped in the blocked skin ducts). Sweat begins to develop.

This is all normal, except in ichthyosis, the skin is thicker than average, so it's like wearing an extra layer of clothes (except Netherton's, which is the opposite problem). And the body is already somewhat dehydrated from the broken skin barrier. So when they finally start to sweat, the water lost in sweating doesn't come from the reserves in blood plasma, it starts coming out of the body cells, by osmosis.

Osmosis - water tries to balance levels of water compared to sediment on both sides of a cell membrane. If water is leaving the blood by sweating, the percent of molecules of salt and potassium and iron and whatall goes up. So water leaves the cells to rebalance the ratio of stuff on the inside of the cells and what's in the blood vessels.

Here's where the danger begins. If you don't get out of the heat, this cycle starts to repeat. You keep sweating, water keeps leaving the cells, which means you have more to sweat, which makes you more dehydrated. At some point, all this water loss messes up your oxygen and CO2 levels on your blood cells, messes with your brain control mechanisms, and you enter into heat exhaustion. There are just no more ways to lose the heat, but the temperature keeps going up. Pretty much the only way to stop this is to get wet and cool as quickly as possible. Drinking fluids isn't enough if you get this far.

The last step, then, is heat stroke. The brain gets so hot from the fast heartrate, dehydrated blood, dehydrated cells, messed up oxygen levels, etc, that it suffers brain damage. Sometimes, you can even got into a coma or die from it.

Sweating isn't an indicator of dehydration. It's a normal function to control heat levels in the body. The problem in ichthyosis, at least my family's type, is that by the time they are sweating, they are severely dehydrated. The reason they don't usually sweat is because they are dehydrated to begin with and the body tries to use the other mechanisms for cooling before resorting to sweating.
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Jennifer
Ichthyosis-en-Confetti Type 2
Husband, Nathan - 10, Elliot - 7, Oliver - 4, all affected.
I also have an unaffected daughter, age 8.


email: jennifer at confettiskin dot com
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#26482 - 06/16/10 09:03 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: Hearsay]
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I am not familiar with the type of ich your children have. All I know of EHK is inclination for blisters, and overheating, others tell me on the board, would be less of a problem.

Cannot digest your biology explanation well regarding what is sweating and what is not. It is not familiar to my experience. But thanks for the information, especially if it pertains particularly to the type of ich in which the defective process of regeneration is associated with accelerated reproduction of the skin.

All I know from my experience is that I do not have this water loss problem that would lead to dehydration prior to sweating. Maybe this has to do with the type(s) of ich associated with slow shedding rather than accelerated reproduction.

All I know is that, with severe vulgaris, I have never felt overheating associated with heat stroke. Of course anyone can feel heat stroke if dehydrated enough. But I have never felt the discomfit, danger or risk of heat stroke related to ich. My discomfit has to do strictly with prickly itch. And prickly itch heat intolerance, in my experience, is strictly related to being able to sweat or not. Hence, the virtuous cycle related to summer weather, sweating, exfoliation, and more sweating, and the vicious cycle of cold weather / air conditioning / overconsumption of alcohol, inability to sweat, scale build up, and prickly itch.

And while prickly itch is not as threatening a problem as heat stroke, I still would not wish it on my worst enemy.

Thanks for all the information you have provided.


Edited by Promiseland (06/16/10 09:05 AM)

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#26485 - 06/16/10 05:20 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: Promiseland]
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I have severe issues with heat. The only parts of my body that actually sweat are my face, palms and feet. My face turns a beet red if I'm in the heat too much. I live in the central valley in California and temps get above 100 degrees here. Often times even 90 degrees is to dangerous for me.
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#26487 - 06/16/10 06:56 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: Promiseland]
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Promiseland, what you're talking about is within the normal range of heat mechanisms. Heat exhaustion and heat intolerance are abnormal. Basically, it is a situation where the body gets to the point where the regular mechanisms to lose heat start creating more of a problem, which feeds on itself until you die. It's what we call a positive feedback loop.

I would certainly hope that you have never come close to heat stroke. My oldest son at age 2 went from feeding the ducks to unresponsive in under 20 minutes one hot day a few years ago. It's a really scary thing to contend with.


Edited by Hearsay (06/17/10 01:17 AM)
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Ichthyosis-en-Confetti Type 2
Husband, Nathan - 10, Elliot - 7, Oliver - 4, all affected.
I also have an unaffected daughter, age 8.


email: jennifer at confettiskin dot com
facebook - find me on "ichthyosis mommy spot" or "friends of ichthyosis"

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#26491 - 06/17/10 01:24 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: Hearsay]
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I had a bout of heat stroke as a child. I am sure it was related to heat and dehydration.

However, it was not related to ich, in my case. It was the same process in which anyone would be under the risk of getting heat stroke from heat and dehydration.

I try to drink a lot of water now. Got to watch the beer consumption carefully.

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#26507 - 06/19/10 02:45 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: Promiseland]
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Thank you for all the helpful information! I do have one other question regarding the fluids. Kenny hates do drink water. He literally spits it out. I usually have to mix it with juice of some kind but I hate for him to have so much sugar all day. He just turned one in may, is it ok for him to have gatorade or other hydrating drinks like that? Of course I always continue to try and give him water but he usually refuses to drink it:(
Thank you again for your help:)
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My name is Candace. My son, kenny was born May 19, 2009 diagnosed with Lamellar Ichthyosis. My daughter Chloe was born June 4, 2011 unaffected.

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#26508 - 06/19/10 10:23 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: cschaap]
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Yes give him whatever he will take! smile You obviously want him to have water, you want to limit the sugar, but at the same time you HAVE to keep him hydrated so I would say Gatorade, Juice, whatever so long as you cut it as much as he will let you with water. I don't give Kallie straight juice, I always really water it down and she doesn't know the difference! smile
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Kati, Mom to Kennedy Jane (March 2007 -- unaffected) and Kallie (May 2009 -- collodian layer and no diagnoses yet)

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#26509 - 06/20/10 02:30 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: MomofPrincesses]
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Thanks Kati! That really helps put my mind at ease:)
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My name is Candace. My son, kenny was born May 19, 2009 diagnosed with Lamellar Ichthyosis. My daughter Chloe was born June 4, 2011 unaffected.

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#26510 - 06/20/10 03:49 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: cschaap]
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I completely agree with Kati! Brandyn won't drink juice only water but perhaps try 25% juice 75% water or even 50-50. One thing Brandyn's dietician told me was that yogurt is considered a fluid too so perhaps give that a go if he likes it?? I find that Brandyn sort of knows what he needs, even at such a young age! He knows where the faucet and fridge are and screams at both when he needs something lol smile I'm not sure about Gatorade but I would think it would be ok but maybe ask your pediatrician.
I freaked out the first time Brandyn overheated but you will learn to recognize Kenny's symptoms. Brandyn overheated today at the playground and as soon as I noticed it was happening, I had cold water and got the A/C running and we were home having a cool ( not cold) bath within minutes. I know it's stressful but once you're used to it ( hate to say it that way but ykwim) it's easier to manage smile
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My name is Morgan. My son Brandyn was born on 26th June, 2008 in Sydney, Australia as a collodion baby and has been diagnosed with lamellar ichthyosis.

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#26511 - 06/20/10 04:53 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: brandynsmum]
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for kids under two, try pedialyte. It's basically the same as gatorade or power ade just in a kid friendly low sugar way. Try make ice pops out of it or I think they have them as ice pops.
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#26512 - 06/20/10 04:38 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: Adrienne1]
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yea we used the pedialyte and the gerber version of the same thing when Alex was under 2. It helped a lot, and I felt better knowing I was giving him something designed for kids, rather than an adult drink. And yes they do now make them in an ice pop form.
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#26513 - 06/20/10 04:49 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: jrmiss86]
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Jennifer (Hearsay), thanks for the explanation on overheating/sweating. I've always wondered what exactly was going on. I am curious if you can solve the mystery of what happens with our daughter when she overheats -- she gets bright red, then a few hours later her torso and back break into raised red bumps/small blisters that are extremely painful. Is that miliaria, i.e. sweat that has been trapped by the extra skin? She doesn't experience the prickly feeling that goes with heat rash, just pain. Sometimes when she overheats her arms and legs look like she is burned, even if the skin has been covered by clothing (not sunburned). Whenever she overheats she goes through a major skin peel after the blisters subside, usually two days later. Any thoughts?
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#26518 - 06/21/10 01:40 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: Sideshow_bob]
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Candace -- I agree about the ice pops too and the yogurt! They also make Gogurt, which can be frozen and eaten like freezer pops. I haven't bought them yet but need to remember to pick some up. Those can be great!! And pedialite is also a good choice, more expensive so we go with gatorade and water it down a lot! smile
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#26524 - 06/21/10 11:34 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: MomofPrincesses]
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Re gatorade - I give it to my kids full strength. They really do need the extra calories, so I don't see a problem with it. People with ichthyosis lose enough heat from evaporation to equal about an extra cheeseburger per day. Severe types can equal the loss of an entire meal. On that note, I use Carnation breakfast powder for their chocolate milk because it has less sugar and more nutrients, and is so much cheaper than slimfast or Pediasure. Same stuff, really. I also tend to use a lot of butter, milk, eggs, etc to add calories to our food.

As for the heating, Sideshow, I think that's exactly what is going on. The sweat system still works, but sweat gets trapped under the skin and makes a blister or a flake. Bacteria eat the sweat and respire out various things that make the belly button lint smell. The increased bacterial load makes us itchy, too. Not any different from going out in the yard on a hot day, sweating a lot and then finding that you itch, just that people with ichthyosis don't have to do anything strenuous to get the same reaction.
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Ichthyosis-en-Confetti Type 2
Husband, Nathan - 10, Elliot - 7, Oliver - 4, all affected.
I also have an unaffected daughter, age 8.


email: jennifer at confettiskin dot com
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#26531 - 06/22/10 05:03 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: Sideshow_bob]
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never had the blisters except from a sunburn. Try using an Aloe cooling gel after she's been outside. If the doesn't help then maybe take her to a derm or ped when she has those blisters to see what they are. My understanding of the condition is that people with ich don't have sweat glands. My face gets real read and other parts of my body get really red too. Also try taking a damp cool cloth and gently patting the red areas with it or a luke warm shower to cool her body down. If none of those help, take her to a doctor.
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#26532 - 06/22/10 03:10 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: Adrienne1]
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Jennifer -- Excellent explanation, thank you!!

And I agree that they need the extra calories! My pediatrician said that Kallie needs a very high fat diet so I always give her whatever she will eat. She LOVES fruit too so that helps a lot, she gets a lot of good natural sugar with fresh fruit but she also loves her some poptarts! smile
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Kati, Mom to Kennedy Jane (March 2007 -- unaffected) and Kallie (May 2009 -- collodian layer and no diagnoses yet)

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#26634 - 07/19/10 11:23 AM Re: Overheating? [Re: Promiseland]
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Jennifer

Thanks for the detailed description. I have always explained to people that my daughters cannot sweat but have not understood the underlying mechanics and I know a paed told me that everyone can sweat, so it makes sense that ich kids can sweat but only as a last resort. I have never let my daughters go so fra, because I keep them inside if it gets over 30degrees Celsius or therabouts. Som it is good to get a better understanding.
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#26750 - 08/09/10 05:02 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: Luckymum]
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Along with all the other tips about plenty of fluids, I carry a small spray bottle of water every time we go out in the summer. It doesn't take up much room in the diaper bag or stroller, it's easy to refill at a sink or water fountain and Evan just loves to be misted with it when he starts to get warm! I also have a small battery powered fan that I take along if there is any chance he will be napping in the stroller. smile
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#26751 - 08/09/10 08:22 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: Luckymum]
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Not all people with ich have a sweat disorder or sweat "as a last resort."

The type that your daughter has makes sweating very difficult or practically impossible, regardless of weather condition. It is a rare and severe type of ich by definition. Heat fatigue would present a constant risk.

Other types do not have this difficulty. Most vulgaris cases have no sweat disorder. The most severe cases of vulgaris would have sweat disorder that would lead to prickly itch. But there is no heat fatigue issues related to ich. And cool and cold weather would not be desirable as it would aggravate scale build up whereas summer weather is desirable as it facilitate profuse sweating that exfoliates the scales and eliminate prickly itch discomfit. While bacterial build up on scales may contribute to itching, it is not the cause for the dreaded prickly itch. For me prickly itch happens only when I have difficulty sweating due to cool weather and scale buildup, but it would immediately stop once sweating begins. And in the summer when sweating can happen all the time there is no prickly itch at all.

Just my guess but I think the differences for the various types of ich may have to with the difference between accelerated reproduction on the one hand, and slow shedding on the other.

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#26828 - 08/31/10 02:45 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: Promiseland]
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I am still wondering if lack of sweating is just an ich defect and not entirely due to blocked sweat glands because of scale. I do not have ich everywhere on my body and still do not sweat. No sweat with heat or exercise. Just very red in the face. The only time I have sweat is on my face in very HOT HUMID weather but I am still red. When I manage my ich well, it is just very fine white snowflakes and if I'm consistent with using exfoliating lotions, it will clear up pretty decently. I have no flakes or scale on neck, chest, inside forearms, back of knees, inside elbows, tops of feet. Tops of feet are soft normal skin, but bottom of feet are hard and rough and toes are wrinkled and old looking. Same with hands. Top of hands normal, with wrinkled fingers, deeply lined hands with hard skin. I am still baffled buy this no sweating and ich. Face looks normal, but can get flaky.

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#26829 - 08/31/10 09:04 PM Re: Overheating? [Re: livinonaprayer]
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Very hard for me to answer as I do not have personal experience with the types of ich that precludes sweating for all practical purposes. But it sounds like CIE or Lamellar if you have great difficulty sweating regardless of circumstances and get red in the face.

Very hard for me to understand how certain body parts that correspond to prevalence of sweat glands or where the skin rubs against each other, like back of knees or inside of elbows, generating heat and sweat are clear of scales but yet sweating does not seem to be responsible for the exfoliated areas.

I wish I could be more helpful.

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