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#20386 - 07/21/05 12:56 AM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
immystique Offline

Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 271
Loc: Grand Junction, CO, USA
i didn't mean to upset you or anything, but some things work for some & don't work for others. Just like "modern" medicine. All of us w/ ichthyosis have been "guinea pigs" for so long, eager to find new things that we become skeptical after a while, especially for those w/o ichthyosis claiming to have found the "perfect cure."
If the grass looks greener on the other side, maybe it's time to start watering your lawn!

#20387 - 07/21/05 02:36 AM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
Nichiro Offline

Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 31
Loc: Detroit
Thanks for your sensible posting.
I know about your problem and I also know what it means in psychological , social and personal terms.
I also , am aware that you are treated as Guinea pigs.
This is exactly what I wanted to stress.

I always believe that God first creates a solution and then creates a problem and not vice versa.

This body condition (I don't call it a disease as it is not a disease) calls for taking things in own hands.
God in his wisdome has given us abundant healing powers.
I am requesting people tostop treating modern science as KNOW ALL science.
A multy billion dollar industry is at the back of forces to defeat alternative medicines which have seen humanity survive for thousands of years.
Modern medicine came with all the drugs and within a span of less than 70 years, human body has become immune to any further modern medicine.
The result is AIDS this condition has more to do with modern medicine (Remember Thalidomide ?)than anything else.

"Cure Thyself" must be the Mantra now.
Stop being Guinea Pigs , and start living.
Use what you have
You'll get what you don't have.

#20388 - 07/23/05 04:09 PM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
Nichiro Offline

Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 31
Loc: Detroit
It is not easy to make a shift in Mindsets and also it is difficult to shift from conceptual thinking.
I am also aware that all of you are watching this topic remaining in background like EYES IN THE JUNGLE.

I also know that it may be a Herculian task for me to even make you ask me questions .
I would therefor start the topic and informations myself giving feedback from patients who have cured themselves of ailments for which there are no medicines or diseases that are difficult to treat.

Since I think that your problem is not a disease, it becomes easier to start a shift in your looking at Ichthyosis as a condition that can be thought to be reversible.(No harm in thinking like that).
A cure starts from thinking positively.

Once you start thinking that way, then next step we will take tomorrow.
I will start with cases/feedback from actual people who took their life in their own hands and cured themselves at "NO COST."

I will not give you false hopes at this stage. I want you to approach AUT with an open mind.
So let us meet tomorrow.
Any reply to this posting ...or no reply. But I will plod on.
Bye beautiful people.
Meetcha tomorrow.

[This message has been edited by Nichiro (edited July 23, 2005).]
Use what you have
You'll get what you don't have.

#20389 - 07/25/05 04:32 PM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
Jr88 Offline

Registered: 03/13/04
Posts: 36
Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Hi Nichiro
I have been away for a while, so I haven't been able to completely follow this topic, but I was curious for you to explain your assesment that Ichthyosis is not a disease. Any English definition of the word 'disease' seems to indicate that Ichthyosis would be in that category

A pathological condition of a part, organ, or system of an organism resulting from various causes, such as infection, genetic defect, or environmental stress, and characterized by an identifiable group of signs or symptoms.

Just breaking the word of disease up into dis-ease, a state of discomfort, would seem to pass my test.

What is your definition of the word disease? People with ichthyosis would love a "cure" for this disease. I am open to new treatments, but I think we need to approach skin disorders and skin disease as they are, a medical issue.

#20390 - 07/26/05 03:58 PM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
Nichiro Offline

Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 31
Loc: Detroit

Good. It is good that you have made a beginning.
Curiousness and curiosity is what made human race what it is today.
It is the essence of evolution.Because it is linked to thirst for knowledge.

Do you want to discuss english language or cure ?

When a body is born, it is perfact the way it is. (Generally)
If it is not, it means that something has made a change in the natural process
of being born as all others.
Icthyosis is also same.
A difference in body structure/well being which might have been brought about by alteration of conditions that were there during the stay of foetus in mother's womb is termed as a disease.
This can happen if some allergy inducedside effect of drugs or bacterial/virus infections/chemical reactions are experienced by the mother.

Thus any outside medium affects the child in the womb or after birth means it is an induced disease.Genetic defect, in my understanding is not in either the hands of mother or the father.
Thus Ichthyosis is not a disease but a condition.

A body is a remarkable self healing organisation.Just as a starfish grows back its limb, lIzard getting back its limbs and tail without usage of medicines, a human body has own healing and curing powers.
We may not be able to grow back a limb but we can surely cure ourselves.
Not only us humans but almost all living things have this powers.
We can harness this power by only one method and that is AUT.
Don't think that it is un natural to drink one's own urine.
Animals , especially all mammals except humans at some point in their life regularly drink/lick urine . It may be their own or other same species urine.

Cows are regular users of this therapy. They get rid of stomach and other disorders by drinking fellow animal (Cow's) urine. I have grown up in a small village and I know for sure that this is a fact.

I will just give you my own example now .
For the last two years, I had a problem with my right lower jaw molar tooth problem which was due to weak gums.
The pain was so bad that I had to take AMOXYCILLINE and other pain killers for a long time.
But inspite of the treatment, I could not get well.
My doctor wanted me to get the tooth removed. I did not like the idea.
So tired of all modern medicines, I sought refuge in AUT which I have used off and on for the last ten years now.
I am not over stating but after ten days of regular drinking my first urine , I have absolutely no pain. I have slowly started using my right jaw for masticating food and my happiness no bounds. I am free of the pain and that is most important.
I have used this therapy for many of my ailments including reducing my eyr power from -9,5 and -10 to less than minus 5.5.

My request to you is, read a lot about AUT. First convince yourself positively to learn all about AUT.
And only after that, first try application on just one experimental area like one arm or one leg regularly for say one lunar cycle of 28 days.I am sure, there will be some response given by your body.
If you have questions, let me know.


[This message has been edited by Nichiro (edited July 28, 2005).]
Use what you have
You'll get what you don't have.

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