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#20376 - 07/19/05 06:31 AM AUTO URINE THERAPY
Nichiro Offline
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Loc: Detroit
Hello Friends,

Has anyone tried out AUT ?
I came across Ichthyosis for the first time 2 months back.
Being a person who has self cured myself of many itching moles spread throughout torso and neck region and also primary fibrosis of mouth and also host of other problems, I am interested to know if AUT will work on Ichthyosis.
Interested people can exchange mails with me.

Nichiro
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#20377 - 07/19/05 07:33 AM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
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I assume that you're talking about putting your own urine on your skin?

Well, uric acid is found in a lot of the products that some of us use, so ostensibly, it should help people that respond to the salicylic acid or lactic acid. The big problem is that the quantity varies with your level of activity and the length of time between urination and the amount of liquid you ingest.

There isn't much in urine that will hurt someone. However, the whole point of the kidneys is to eliminate excess acids, so drinking them again pretty well defeats the purpose and makes the kidneys work harder.

This is another one of those techniques where the information available is a combination of truth and absolute BS.

Urine is sterile: true. The bacteria is introduced from the skin and it travels slowly up the urethra. Flushing urine out for the first second or two is sufficient to get a mostly sterile sample, unless you have a UTI.

Urine provides nutrients: Well, yes and no. If there are vitamins and minerals in your urine it is because your body has too much of them already in the system. If you re-ingest them by drinking urine, what do you think the body is going to do with them?

Urine cures disease (flu, AIDS, allergies, snake venom, etc) and increases sperm counts and increases pregnancy: Um. No. It doesn't.

Here's a link on the subject: http://skepdic.com/urine.html

[This message has been edited by Hearsay (edited July 19, 2005).]
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#20378 - 07/19/05 07:53 AM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
Nichiro Offline
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Registered: 07/19/05
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Loc: Detroit
Hi,
Have you ever tried AUT yourself ?
If yes, then your reactions may be of interest.
If No, then it is pure BS.
Nichiro

AUT is practiced by drinking, topical application and smelling.
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#20379 - 07/19/05 02:44 PM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
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Would you like to provide some evidence to the contrary of what I posted? I would love to see the science that backs up your claims.

Please don't tell me that my 11 years of physiology training is pure BS unless you can back up your own claims.

Thanks!
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Jennifer
Ichthyosis-en-Confetti Type 2
Husband, Nathan - 10, Elliot - 7, Oliver - 4, all affected.
I also have an unaffected daughter, age 8.


email: jennifer at confettiskin dot com
facebook - find me on "ichthyosis mommy spot" or "friends of ichthyosis"

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#20380 - 07/19/05 08:11 PM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
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Dear Hearsay,

You speak of 11 years training only. Have you any AUT experience?
What you speak and write is what you read and learnt from your teachers.
What I claimed is what I practised.
If you want proof which is documented, please visit any AUT site by typin in google.
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#20381 - 07/19/05 08:33 PM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
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Did that. I saw lots of claims of what it is supposed to do, but utterly no mechanism to back it up. If it cures dysentery, HIV and malaria, as is claimed, how come most of Africa and the Indian subcontinent still lose millions of people each year? Why isn't this common knowledge in your part of the world.

Given that I understand the underlying mechanisms for generating sperm, could you add to that understanding how urine would impact its production? HOW does it make you more likely to get pregnant? None of that is answered on any of the top Google hits. Documented in a published journal? Nope, not there, either. Where should I look?

Two things that are unexplained:
1. If the kidney's purpose is to maintain homeostasis by eliminating excesses and waste products, how exactly are you helping yourself by reintroducing the excesses and waste?

2. How is urine better than a balanced diet? Can't you get calcium just as easily from broccoli and milk? Can't you get potassium from bananas? And why, exactly, would you want to reingest urea?
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Jennifer
Ichthyosis-en-Confetti Type 2
Husband, Nathan - 10, Elliot - 7, Oliver - 4, all affected.
I also have an unaffected daughter, age 8.


email: jennifer at confettiskin dot com
facebook - find me on "ichthyosis mommy spot" or "friends of ichthyosis"

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#20382 - 07/19/05 09:51 PM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
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Loc: Grand Junction, CO, USA
I agree w/ Hearsay. No way in Hades am I gonna drink, smell, or wear my own or anyone else's excrements! There's a reason why it's called human WASTE!
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#20383 - 07/19/05 11:26 PM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
Nichiro Offline
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Registered: 07/19/05
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Loc: Detroit
Hearsay,

What makes you think that present day SO CALLED modern medicine has understood what is there in nature completely ?
A science which has still not understood how Aspirin works cannot claim to know all answers.
If such was the case, why should modern medicine fall back on traditional native therapy like "Termite mound earth" and Termite soldier's application therapy to heal wounds.
And what about fly worms to treat rotting flesh in diabetic and other patients?
I have not yet touched upon leech/bee stings therapy.
My question in opening this topic was simple.
Has any one tried AUT ?
And mind you this thread is about alternative therapy.
Ridiculing any treatment which is followed for thousands upon thousand years cannot and will not serve any purpose.
Mao ze Dong has said,
"To destroy a system, first know the system"
Savy ?

And what makes you say that urine is a waste product ?

Just because some myopic doc says that ?
Come on....give me some thing better.


IMMISTIQUE,

It is your choice.
I would however request you to read as much as possible on AUT.
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#20384 - 07/19/05 11:29 PM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
Nichiro Offline
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Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 31
Loc: Detroit
I thought that people would like to know what magic is there that at the age of 56, my facial skin is fresh like some 30 year old guy ?
And my body skin is as taut ?
My wife who is a younger to me by an year already sports wrinkled skin under the chin.
And has loose skin on hands etc which show wrinkles .
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#20385 - 07/20/05 11:06 AM Re: AUTO URINE THERAPY
Nichiro Offline
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Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 31
Loc: Detroit
Friends,
I am posting some links selected at random for you all to just read and know about AUT.
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/Urine_Therapy.htm


http://www.hps-online.com/hurine3.htm

http://www.bluegrass.net/~jclark/urine_therapy.htm
http://archive.mayashastra.org/Reference...ne_Therapy.html
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